Why I think Chicago sucks

So, you’ve just Googled “Chicago sucks” or clicked the WordPress tags link “Chicago sucks” and you find yourself here. (It’s extremely unlikely you got here with any other search term.) Or, possibly, you clicked a link from City Data or Windy Citizen.  Now what?

Please allow me to give you a little friendly advice. If you actually love Chicago and were only Googling “Chicago sucks” for the giggles, please keep moving, find another blog. You WON’T like what you read here. Please don’t comment, because this is NOT a debate site, it’s a commiseration site for people who feel the same.

It’s also NOT a public forum, it’s a post on my personal blog, so 1st Amendment rights do not apply to you here. I don’t allow flames, or name calling – such comments are deleted. I’m also not particularly indulgent when people think they need to “defend Chicago” or “offer a rebuttal” to my opinion of Chicago. First of all, Chicago doesn’t need you to defend it; secondly, you can’t say anything that anyone here hasn’t heard thousands of times already; and thirdly, I don’t need a “rebuttal” because I AM the rebuttal to the starry-eyed “Chicago is the greatest city in the world!” attitude.

Still have something to say? Here, go to www.wordpress.com and get your own blog.

For the record:

  • No, I haven’t dedicated an entire blog to Chicago sucking.
  • No, this is not all I think about. This is but one post out of more than a thousand on my blog.
  • No, these are not the only comments on this post. The comment thread got so huge I had to move them to another page in an attempt to shorten the length here, so add about 1500 to the total you see here. (Prior to WordPress changing their comments format)
  • No, I’m not a native Chicagoan.
  • Yes, I live in Chicagoland.
  • Yes, I’ve lived here for decades.
  • Yes, I’ve lived in other cities around the country.
  • Yes, I’d love to move.
  • No, circumstances don’t permit that right now.
  • Why, is really none of your business.
  • It’s enough that if I could move, I would.
  • But since I’m currently stuck here, and a tax-paying citizen here, I AM free to express my opinion with the state of things here, since I’M paying for it.
  • Don’t like that? Then move along, nothing for you to see here.
  • Yes, we know Chicago has bars, museums, restaurants, parades, the El, and a big, shiny bean.
  • No, those are not the things we particularly care about.



Yes, we know other cities have problems too, but we don’t live in other cities, we live here, and are concerned about issues here. It’s not enough to say “It’s not as bad as Cleveland, or Detroit,” when the reality is, why aren’t we as good as Houston or Salt Lake City? They have lower taxes, lower unemployment, lower crime. Why do Chicagoans settle for less, and apparently like it?  Why are they, in fact, proud of it? 

So, you want to say, “Get the f*ck out if you don’t like it here!” as though (a) I didn’t think of that and (b) I’ve never heard that before?

Here’s a thought for all of you who say that to me – How about YOU leave so we can fix the place up and make it so it doesn’t suck? Just sayin’.

If, on the other hand, you don’t care too much for Chicago either, and need a place to vent your frustration, want a group of like-minded people to share your thoughts with, then by all means, scroll down and say hello. :)

 

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If you’ve come here to argue with me, be rude, hostile, or a smartass, please don’t bother. You’re never going to change how I feel about a place, or undo what I’ve dealt with.

And please don’t make the mistake that I am a miserable person and “so unhappy.”  FORBES called CHICAGO a miserable city, it did not say I am a miserable person.  Are we clear on this now?  Plus, it’s not like you care whether or not I’m happy, so it’s okay for you to ditch the “if you’re so unhappy you should just leave!” lines.

How about this – if you’re so unhappy with my post, you should just move on to another blog. 

If you want to love on Chicago, I’m more than happy to point you to www.wordpress.com , where you can get your own blog and praise Chicago to the skies. No hard feelings. :D

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(The original post from Feb. 2008 , in its entirety, follows.)

Recently I did a little post called, " Proof That Chicago Sucks ." It has turned out to be one of my most popular posts, and I get daily searches for the phrase "Chicago sucks" in my search engine terms. So I thought I’d dedicate an entire post to the subject, with my reasons for disliking Chicago, and not simply Forbes reasons for listing it in the Top 10 Most Miserable US cities.   FireShot #62 The unemployment rate is higher than the national average. I can speak from personal experience that this is especially true in the tech industry. And even if you can get a job, the pay rate will be below national average.

Housing sales are down more than 22% since the same time period last year. The average home price is close to $260,000. And property taxes are through the roof. (Pun intended!) Can’t afford a house? Plan on paying at least $1000 to rent a half-way decent apartment.

The commute time is horrible, on roads that are more pothole and patchwork than actual road. Plan on an hour, each way, just to get to work and back.

The weather is terrible. A local joke is that Chicago has 2 seasons – winter and road work. Um, it’s not a joke and it’s not funny. I have calculated that temperatures can vary as much as 200°. I have seen -80° wind-chills in winter, and 120° heat indices in summer. Often it is colder here than in Alaska.

Jackets? You like jackets? Good, because you’ll need at least 6. One to wear to and from the car, one to wear in the car, one to wear inside, one for fall days, one for fall nights, and one for rainy days. See, if you get one heavy enough for outside wear, it’s too bulky to wear in the car, but your car’s not warm enough to ditch the coat entirely – you still need something to stay warm. The weather varies so widely that you need a coat, jacket, or sweater for every 10° variance.

In the summer, the heat and humidity can be so stifling that it’s almost difficult to breathe. It’s no surprise that Chicago has one of the highest asthma rates in the nation.

How hot is it? In 1995, it was so hot that nearly 600 people died in less than a week from heat related causes.

Spring? Don’t blink or you’ll miss it. Autumn’s not a whole lot different.

The City That Works? ROFLMAO Yeah. I remember when this story about sleeping on the job hit the air. Pictures and video of sleeping city workers were all over the news. Officials leave work early, if they deign to show up at all. They put friends and relatives on the payroll. No, they don’t give them jobs, just put them on the payroll.

Government corruption in Chicago, and the Illinois state government? Notorious. One of our former governors is sitting in prison right now for his role in this truck license scam that cost a family 6 of their children.

Taxes? Chicago has one of the highest tax rates in the country. (And it’s gone up since the linked article was written.) Someone has to pay for all those relatives and friends on city payrolls.

It seems like everything costs more here, from milk to gasoline. Utility rates are sky high. Take natural gas, for instance: one year I lived in a place that had electric heat. The years before and after I had gas heat. During that one year with electric heat, gas prices had doubled. Before, I paid about $75 to heat my house. The year after? About $150. Bigger house? No. I checked the bill – the rates were 100% higher. And that was 10 years ago.

People think the food here is wonderful. I suspect the only people who feel that way are the people who have lived here all their lives, and never eaten anywhere else. Chicago pizza isn’t all that hot. It’s more sauce than cheese, and sausage seems to be the topping of choice around here. Saucy sausage on dough. Does that sound appetizing to you?

And did you know, it’s offensive to put ketchup on a Chicago Style hot dog ? I kid you not: "It is taboo to put ketchup on a Chicago hot dog; there are actually some hot dog shops and stands that will refuse to provide service if the customer makes the request." They aren’t kidding – I’ve been to such places. "We don’ got no catch up heeah. You ain’t from Shikahga, air ya?" No. No I’m not. (Yes, folks actually speak like Dennis Franz around here. He’s from Chicago, not New York. The "accent" he has is native to here.)

I would love to get out, but it’s like living in a black hole.

There’s some sort of weird arrogance in Chicago too, at least on the news. Everything has to have some kind of Chicago connection. When the September 11 attacks happened, I expected my local news to carry the story of what was happening across the nation – New York, Pennsylvania, Washington D.C. Nothing was happening here, the big news was elsewhere. What was the news about? The Sears Tower and how it might possibly may have maybe at some point thought to have been we think on the speculated we assume target list. Oh and by the way, some planes made the World Trade Center collapse. But they were headed to Chicago! It was nauseating.

Those are a few of my reasons. I have more, but I think this is enough for a post. No doubt you’d say, "More than!" LoL :) That’s why I hope someone who’s searched for "Chicago sucks" comments here. Hey, we’re in one of the Top 10 Most Miserable cities! Let’s chat! Tell me why you think it sucks here. 

Some people like it here. I doubt they’ve ever lived some place else to compare it to. I’m happy for them, honestly. It’s good to like where you live. I know of families who’ve lived around Chicago for generations. I wish I could live where I liked and like where I lived. It must be a great feeling. One day I’ll get out, and find that place for myself as well.

If you like Chicago, try these links: Why I Love Chicago , or you can to Chicagoist , or to Chicago Adventures . They like Chicago too, and I’m sure they’d be more than happy to have you visit. :)

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  1. The migration rate out of Chicago is the sixth worst among the 200 largest metros.

    via #4 Chicago, Ill. – America’s Most Miserable Cities 2013 – Forbes.

    • Girbaud King

      Hey Ness:
      I was wondering, since Southern California has been written about so much on this board, what your thoughts were on living there? Would you ever move back to California? S.F.? L.A.? San Diego? Etc… Just wondering?

      • Why thank you for asking, Girbaud! :)

        Well, first off, it must be said that everyone in NoCal knows that SoCal ought to be a separate state. ;)

        There was a time, for many years actually, when CA was “home” to me, and I would have been tempted to sell my soul to go back.

        However, having had a chance to spend some time there a few years ago showed me that the CA I remembered no longer exists. I was never a SoCal kind of girl when I was young, and I’m even less of one now. As for NoCal, the one I loved, is gone. Even the school I went to was remodeled and doesn’t even resemble how it was when I attended it. It’s not even a school anymore. My church isn’t even the same denomination. And a friend sent me a news article just last week about how an iconic theater I used to go to was torn down.

        Right now, I am a red fish in a blue sea, and CA is even more blue now than IL. That wasn’t the case when I grew up there. I think I would die there now. It is a beautiful place. While some are not as pretty as they used to be – certain parts of SF – I might still visit. There are the redwoods, PCH, Yosemite, lots of gorgeous places still left. I’d like my kids to see those places one day.

        But I could never live there again. I saw that clearly last time I was there. It was so alien to me, unrecognizable. I no longer belong there.

        Other people, however, certainly don’t have the same memories or wants as I do, and it might be the perfect place for them. :)

        Thanks, Girbaud. :)

  2. Nyctelios

    Take your hate speech elsewhere, Nyctelios. Your comment has been deleted.

    ~Ness

  3. Alex Hoffman

    i feel like you dont understand that all those things above are flaws, but they are our flaws, and we love chicago for what chicago is. I understand you hate this city however you cannot change chicago. I mean have you been to oak park? it is handsdown the greatest architectual town in the country. I admit i find the politics here amusing, it is something that makes us unique and different from the rest. You compare us to salt lake city and houston, but salt lake city is run by mormons, and houston doesnt have nearly as many people, or as many people in poverty. are taxes are high because of the amount of apartments in the city. huoston and salt lake just seem dull and fake, its all development, where is the history and the class, the out of the ordinary characteristic that makes each city unique?

    • Hello Alex.

      Please forgive the delay in replying to you. It’s been a long week and I’m still trying to catch up.

      First off, I have to say that, frankly, it’s attitudes such as yours that make change in this city difficult. You’ve completely misread everything I’ve been trying to say, if indeed you read my post at all. Many don’t, they just see the headline and presume to know what the post says. I never said I hated the city. There are a lot of things about it I dislike. Yes, I’ve been to Oak Park. Yes, it’s lovely there. And your point? Detroit had great architecture too. Lots of cities do. I’m from San Francisco, they have unique architecture. Have you heard of the Transamerica building?

      I have to ask, what exactly is your comment, “Salt Lake City is run by Mormons,” supposed to mean? Are you prejudiced against Mormons? Do you think that Mormonism somehow is the cause of lower taxes and lower crime? Mormons aren’t human, or something? I don’t get it.

      Houston is neck and neck with Chicago on population. Many think they will be the 3rd largest city in America any day now – especially with so many people leaving Chicago and moving to TX. Right now they are the 4th largest city, so your argument that “Houston doesn’t have nearly as many people,” is invalid.

      You find those cities dull and fake – well that’s just subjective opinion. And you’re entitled to it. But you don’t really offer any validation for it. Those cities have lots of history and could no doubt educate you on it if you were so inclined. They were all founded roughly about the same time (as Chicago), so they all have relatively comparable histories, in terms of length.

      You find the flaws and politics amusing. Right there, in a nutshell, is what is typically the biggest problems facing the city. The “flaws and politics” that you so lovingly and proudly embrace are a cancer on our society. It’s like saying that if you had cancer, you would find it amusing because it’s YOUR cancer, therefore unique and part of what makes you different. It’s attitudes like yours that keep voting in the corruption, so that things never improve for the people living here. Taxes aren’t high because of apartments. Taxes are high because of the corruption in the Chicago government. (And the IL state government, too, I’m not leaving them out of it.) Corruption is not a “characteristic.” Corruption is a disease, a blight, a sickness.

      But you’re right, as long as you and people like you are amused and okay with the disease that infects Chicago, it will never get well. In fact, it will only get worse.

      Thanks for stopping by, Alex.
      ~Ness

    • Girbaud King

      The taxes are high because of apartments?! What?

      • I know, right?! It’s so weird to know that there are still people in this day and age who don’t realize that the owners of apartment buildings still pay property taxes on all the apartments they own. Which is one reason why rents are so high.

        ~Ness

  4. Biff Tannen

    I’ve lived around Chicago all my life – and the author is right, this place f***ing sucks, big time. To start with, yes, it’s an extremely expensive city. We have the “honor” of having the most expensive gasoline and highest sales tax in the nation. If you aren’t rich, this place is to you the equivalent of a giant middle finger pointed in your direction. And we don’t even get what we pay for, either – the weather around here is crappy almost year-round. Summer can be nice, but I’d say 90% of our days are either cloudy, rainy, snowy, or just plain cold and miserable. I just came back from a bike ride…in pants and a sweater…in June. IN F***ING JUNE!!!!

    I hate this place.

    • Hey Biff, thanks for stopping by and commenting!

      I like the “giant middle finger” reference! LOL That about sums it up.

      While I’m not a fan of hot, and even less so of humidity, I do think that lows in the 40s in June is kind of odd.

      Next month, we’ll be praying for it probably, ha!

      Hope your bike ride was a good one!

      Hope to see you again. :)

      ~Ness

  5. irishcowboy

    Absolutely hilarious. And all very true. I’m from Columbus and lived in Chicago for a few years. Ironically, I’ve been saying the same stuff for awhile- seems that the people that understand are those that have lived other places. Recently got so fed up with it and moved down to Austin, Texas. NEVER going back. Good luck and God bless y’all

    • Hi Cowboy! And Irish, to boot! Gotta love it. :D

      Yes, I noticed that it seems to be mainly the non-natives who’ve understood what we’ve been trying to say here. The locals are all offended and don’t get why we don’t think the taxes and corruption are cute and silly and just part of what makes Chicago unique.

      I’m SO not surprised you like it in Texas! I have a couple of friends down there, and they adore it. But then they’re native so I expect them to love it. When the transplants do, then you know it’s a good thing. :)

      Come back again soon! God bless y’all too. :D
      ~Ness

  6. Christian Jenkins

    I was born in Chicago and i’m 19 yrs old, but for about 5 years of my life I have lived in Naperville, IL. I agree with everything about this place being horrible. Bad weather, everything is high priced, can’t get a job, a lot of the people who never lived anywhere else or have lack of wisdom, common sense, or understanding are assholes or not too far away from killing the last few brain cells they have left, horrible crime rate, and the list goes on. Even I know taxes arn’t high because of apartments. As soon as I get the chance i’m making my way out of here ASAP, and no one should have the right to hit you with the “If you don’t like it then leave” line because the people who say that are usually the exact ones who don’t even know why they are defending it themselves. Nothing but a messed up and corrupt city filled with problems hiding behind false advertisements of a “good” life and a giant shiny bean to attract people with low attention spans. Its like looking at a bunch of goldfish swim around a rock lol. I know it may have history, but its just a bean! You can find them in stores or on your plate. Haha

    • Christian, you make my heart happy for the next generation. :)

      because the people who say that are usually the exact ones who don’t even know why they are defending it themselves.” Such an astute observation for someone of your tender years! There is so much truth in that! It’s like a knee-jerk response when people give me that line, much like when a kindergartner tells you they’re taking all their toys and going home if you want to play something else. There’s a “poutiness” to it that’s really disturbing.

      I like the goldfish analogy to the BEAN! ROFL That was funny! :D All hail the magical BEAN!

      You will get your chance to leave, I can feel it already. You will find a place that will give you better opportunities than what can be found around here, what with jobs leaving by the bucket. Don’t forget to let me know when you achieve “escape velocity” and where you plan to explore. Yours will be a journey that will be fun to watch, much like my friend and former frequent commentor, JR.

      Thanks for stopping by and commenting! Come back soon!
      ~Ness

  7. Girbaud King

    The really sad thing about Chicago is that it really could be a world class city. I personally love Chicago; but it’s like a love you have for a really screwed up son.

    • It has so much potential, doesn’t it, Girbaud?

      More than a screwed up son though, I think. To me, it’s more like watching your neighbor’s kid get beat up by a bunch of thugs and hearing your neighbor say, “Oh it’s okay, I know them, my kid will be fine.”

  8. john

    I hate this place!!!lrun for your live, i mean it!

  9. Greco

    I bet they call in the National Guard. Chicago is the Murder Capital!! You are taking your life in your own hands every time you walk out the door!

    I hate hate hate this crummy city! I will be moving out in 7 years!

    Bloody Chicago weekend: 7 dead, dozens hurt in shootings
    William M. Welch, USA TODAY 6:36 p.m. EDT June 16, 2013
    After a year rocked by gun violence, Chicago was seeing some relief this year — until this weekend.
    Chicago Violence

    Gun violence flared over the Father’s Day weekend in Chicago. At least seven people died and 30 others wounded in shootings across the city, authorities said.

    In a city beset by gun crimes, six died in separate shootings Saturday night or early Sunday morning, including a 16-year-old boy, authorities said.

    One of the weekend’s victims was a man shot by police when he raised a handgun in their direction after jumping from a moving car and fleeing on foot, the Chicago Tribune reported, quoting police.

    The Tribune gave this account of six of the deaths:

    • One person died and three others were wounded in a shooting inside a club in the Grand Crossing neighborhood. Todd Wood, 40, died later at a hospital, according to the Cook County medical examiner’s office.

    • Ricardo Herrera, 21, was pronounced dead at the scene of a shooting in the Little Village neighborhood on the South Side. Five others were wounded in that shooting and a second one a short time later in the same neighborhood, police said.

    • Kevin Rivera, 16, died after being struck by a bullet fired by someone on a bicycle in the Hermosa neighborhood on the Northwest Side shortly before midnight, police said.

    • Jamal Jones, 19, died after being found shot about 1:15 a.m. Sunday in the Englewood neighborhood on the South Side, police said.

    • Cortez Wilberton was killed and a woman wounded in a shooting in the West Garfield Park neighborhood on the West Side, police said.

    • A man died after a foot pursuit by police early Sunday morning in the Lawndale neighborhood on the West Side. Police spokesman Patrick Camden told the Tribune that a man ran into an alley after police tried to stop his car. Camden said the man fell, then raised a 9-millimeter handgun with one hand as he tried to get up, drawing police fire. He was later identified by the Cook County medical examiner’s office as Antwon Johnson, 24.

    The weekend deaths brought a pall to a city that had been seeing some relief from gun violence. Homicides in Chicago soared last year even as the numbers declined in other major cities, but killings this year are down after heavier policing focused on gangs.

  10. Girbaud King

    Jury finds former Chicago alderman guilty in federal bribery case

    http://www.suntimes.com/20799433-761/former-chicago-alderman-guilty-in-bribery-case.html

    It takes something special to stand out as a dirty alderman in a city that has seen 30 current or former City Council members convicted of corruption since 1972.

    But disgraced former Ald. Ambrosio Medrano managed it Monday, when he became the first to be convicted twice in two separate cases.

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